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Rees Matthews's avatar

I find your critique compelling. However, your landing zone seems to be too… disjointed.

How does the notion of a Francis Option (RC) fit within a Christendom Evangelization (EO) and represent the Gospel of Grace (Prot)???

Again, your critiques are compelling — inspiring, even. Yet, I don’t think your solution is similarly compelling. It seems to come across as a veiled desire to return to Christendom, and in a way that requires too much institutional power.

I think there is much spiritual purpose in moving past Christendom. I am glad it’s gone. I don’t want to return to pre-Christian paganism either — but I don’t believe that’s where we are going. Unfortunately, postmodernism has ruined it all and left us to pick up the pieces.

And, to me, the hearkening back to Christendom will not save us who are trying to find our way within the ruins of it. We are stuck in post-truth, post-institution, post-liberal societies which cannot provide any support to such a grand institutional move, and, as far as I can see, will do nothing but undermine such a move toward cultural influence. (Not too mention the direct tie between cultural influence and cultural power that has resulted in the Nationalism of EO churches)

I think a better foundation of where we could go is an idea from Ian Cron’s novel Chasing Francis: “To the spiritual neglect, consumerism, and complicity that filled the church, Saint Francis offered a corrective… it was the *communal example* of Francis and his followers, not polished rhetoric, which provided challenge for the church.” I would add to this the historical fact that Francis was a preacher! I think this is a better “starter pack” of how we can be a μάρτυς/witness in today’s society, rather than exerting cultural influence.

Maybe a more compelling Christianity comes not from cultural influence that consecrates a country, but a compelling community telling the most compelling story to anyone who will listen! :)

PS — thank you so much for your thoughts on Platonism. I believe if we could remove neo-platonic thought from our churches, we could effectively erect a barrier to hold back Gnostic tendencies (such as the Evangelical tendency to believe that faith is about escaping to heaven when you die rather than seeing it as an existential reality to live in by which God brings heaven to earth).

Jake Patty's avatar

I am so on board with this. My wife and I have been talking a lot over the last few weeks about this exact problem (especially within reformed/baptistic contexts where a lot of our friends are).

We are trying to figure out how exactly to define “what is Christianity, anyway?” at different levels—for both American Christians, and for American unbelievers, and we are right there with you in all of this.

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